site: faq: re-tell the history
This commit is contained in:
		
							parent
							
								
									4723b36987
								
							
						
					
					
						commit
						b52d5622a1
					
				
							
								
								
									
										205
									
								
								site/faq.md
									
									
									
									
									
								
							
							
						
						
									
										205
									
								
								site/faq.md
									
									
									
									
									
								
							| @ -2,70 +2,65 @@ | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| # Frequently asked questions | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ## hledger and Ledger | ||||
| ## hledger & Ledger | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### How does hledger relate to Ledger ? | ||||
| ### History | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| hledger was inspired by John Wiegley's | ||||
| [Ledger](http://ledger-cli.org).  It is a friendly, mostly compatible | ||||
| rewrite of Ledger in Haskell, begun in 2007 (Ledger started in 2003), | ||||
| focussing on robustness, usability, ease of development, long-term | ||||
| maintainability, and new experiments such as the | ||||
| [web interface](manual.html#web).  It currently lacks some of Ledger's | ||||
| power-user features and speed.  hledger stays compatible with Ledger | ||||
| wherever possible, so that with a little care you can use both tools | ||||
| on the same data files. | ||||
| I was a happy user of John Wiegley's [Ledger](http://ledger-cli.org) | ||||
| (begun in 2003) for some time. There was a long period of stagnation | ||||
| in that project. I grew tired of bugs, missing and wrong documentation, | ||||
| and explaining the situation to confused newcomers. | ||||
| I really, truly needed a reliable accounting tool. | ||||
| I really didn't want to spend time learning C++. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Longer answer: I was a happy Ledger user and contributor for some | ||||
| time, then became too dissatisfied with bugs, missing/wrong | ||||
| documentation and a long period of stagnation. I also wanted to try | ||||
| implementing Ledger's brilliant design in the Haskell programming | ||||
| language and ecosystem, which I believe has compelling advantages. I | ||||
| try to build on Ledger's experience to make hledger easier to learn | ||||
| and use, better documented, more appealing to work on; and to provide | ||||
| alternate user interfaces (interactive, curses, web) to make it useful | ||||
| to more people. | ||||
| I felt Ledger could be implemented well and perhaps even more | ||||
| successfully in the Haskell programming language, which has some | ||||
| compelling advantages. (It encourages the coding style known as pure | ||||
| functional programming, allowing more bug-free, concise and | ||||
| maintainable software. It provides a more abstracted, portable | ||||
| platform making installation easier. It is attractive for contributors | ||||
| to work on.) | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| hledger builds quickly and has a complete and accurate manual, an | ||||
| easier report query syntax, a data entry assistant, an optional web | ||||
| interface (which often works on Ledger files too), and multi-column | ||||
| balance reports.  Ledger has additional power-user features (capital | ||||
| gains tracking, periodic and modifier transactions, budget reports, | ||||
| custom value expressions..)  and it remains faster and more memory | ||||
| efficient (for now!). | ||||
| I couldn't ask John to start over - back then he was not the Haskell | ||||
| lover he has since become! - so in 2007 I started prototyping a | ||||
| parser, and kept going.  My goals were to (a) learn how well Haskell | ||||
| could do in this (simple, thought I) real-world application, and (b) | ||||
| maybe, build on Ledger's experience to create a new implementation | ||||
| prioritising ease of use. It would have simpler features, fewer bugs, | ||||
| better documentation, and additional user interfaces. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| The two projects collaborate freely.  For some time we shared the | ||||
| [#ledger](irc://irc.freenode.net/#ledger) IRC channel; in 2014 I added | ||||
| a dedicated [#hledger](irc://irc.freenode.net/#hledger) channel. | ||||
| I give back to Ledger by providing infrastructure | ||||
| ([ledger-cli.org](http://ledger-cli.org)), IRC support, [LedgerTips](http://twitter.com/LedgerTips) etc. | ||||
| Later the Ledger project revived and attracted more contributors. The | ||||
| two projects collaborate freely and ideas have travelled in both | ||||
| directions.  Having two independent somewhat-compatible | ||||
| implementations has been quite helpful for testing and | ||||
| troubleshooting, exploring the design space, and growing the "*ledger" | ||||
| community.  I also give back to Ledger by providing infrastructure | ||||
| like [ledger-cli.org](http://ledger-cli.org), | ||||
| [LedgerTips](http://twitter.com/LedgerTips), IRC support on #ledger | ||||
| etc. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### And Ledger 4 ? | ||||
| For some time hledger shared Ledger's IRC channel #ledger. In 2014 I | ||||
| added the dedicated [#hledger](irc://irc.freenode.net/#hledger) | ||||
| channel. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| There is also a [ledger4](https://github.com/ledger/ledger4) on github; this is  | ||||
| John's own rewrite of the core of | ||||
| Ledger 3 in haskell. It's an early library prototype, not a usable tool. | ||||
| Perhaps some day hledger or something like it would use this as its foundation.  | ||||
| ### Future ? | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### File format differences ? | ||||
| There is a [ledger4](https://github.com/ledger/ledger4) repo on | ||||
| github; this is John's 2012/2013 rewrite of some parts of Ledger 3, | ||||
| including the parser, in Haskell. We have a plan to add this parser to | ||||
| hledger in 2015/2016, increasing its ability to read Ledger's files. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| hledger's file format is mostly identical with Ledger's, by design. | ||||
| Generally, it's easy to keep a journal file that works with both hledger | ||||
| and Ledger if you avoid Ledger's and hledger's more specialised syntax | ||||
| (or keep it in separate files which you include only when appropriate). | ||||
| ### Features | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Some Ledger syntax is parsed but ignored (such as | ||||
| [automated transactions](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Automated-Transactions), [periodic transactions](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Periodic-Transactions), and | ||||
| [historical prices](manual.html#historical-prices)). | ||||
| Some features are not currently parsed and will cause an error, eg | ||||
| Ledger's more recent top-level directives. There can also be subtle | ||||
| differences in parser behaviour, such as with | ||||
| [hledger comments](manual.html#comments) vs [Ledger comments](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Commenting-on-your-Journal), | ||||
| or [balance assertions](manual.html#assertions-and-ordering). | ||||
| Compared to Ledger, hledger builds quickly and has a complete and | ||||
| accurate manual, an easier report query syntax, multi-column balance | ||||
| reports, better depth limiting, an interactive data entry assistant, | ||||
| and optional web and curses interfaces. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### Feature differences ? | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| hledger mimics a subset of [Ledger 3.x](http://ledger-cli.org), and adds some features of its own. | ||||
| Compared to hledger, Ledger has additional power-user features such as | ||||
| periodic and modifier transactions, budget reports, and the built in | ||||
| value expressions language, and it remains faster and more memory | ||||
| efficient (for now). | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| We currently support: | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| @ -74,19 +69,17 @@ We currently support: | ||||
| - timelog format | ||||
| - regular journal transactions | ||||
| - multiple commodities | ||||
| - fixed prices | ||||
| - fixed transaction prices | ||||
| - varying market prices | ||||
| - virtual postings | ||||
| - print, register & balance commands | ||||
| - filtering by many criteria, with different query syntax | ||||
| - display expressions containing just a simple date predicate | ||||
| - some basic output formatting | ||||
| - the print, register & balance commands | ||||
| - report filtering, using a different query syntax | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| We do not support: | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - automated transactions | ||||
| - value expressions | ||||
| - fluctuating prices and historical price records | ||||
| - display formats other than `d>[DATE]` or similar | ||||
| - budget reports | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| And we add these commands: | ||||
| @ -98,67 +91,26 @@ And we add these commands: | ||||
| - incomestatement | ||||
| - irr | ||||
| - interest | ||||
| - vty | ||||
| - ui | ||||
| - web | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### Option/command differences ? | ||||
| ### File formats | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Ledger options and commands not supported include: | ||||
| ``` | ||||
| Basic options: | ||||
| -o, --output FILE      write output to FILE | ||||
| -i, --init-file FILE   initialize ledger using FILE (default: ~/.ledgerrc) | ||||
| -a, --account NAME     use NAME for the default account (useful with QIF) | ||||
| hledger's journal file format is mostly identical with Ledger's, by design. | ||||
| Generally, it's easy to keep a journal file that works with both hledger | ||||
| and Ledger if you avoid Ledger's and hledger's more specialised syntax | ||||
| (or keep it in separate files which you include only when appropriate). | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Report filtering: | ||||
| -c, --current          show only current and past entries (not future) | ||||
| --period-sort EXPR sort each report period's entries by EXPR | ||||
| -L, --actual           consider only actual (non-automated) transactions | ||||
| --budget           generate budget entries based on periodic entries | ||||
| --add-budget       show all transactions plus the budget | ||||
| --unbudgeted       show only unbudgeted transactions | ||||
| --forecast EXPR    generate forecast entries while EXPR is true | ||||
| -l, --limit EXPR       calculate only transactions matching EXPR | ||||
| -t, --amount EXPR      use EXPR to calculate the displayed amount | ||||
| -T, --total EXPR       use EXPR to calculate the displayed total | ||||
| Some Ledger syntax is parsed but ignored (such as | ||||
| [automated transactions](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Automated-Transactions) | ||||
| and [periodic transactions](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Periodic-Transactions)). | ||||
| Some features are not currently parsed and will cause an error, eg | ||||
| Ledger's more recent top-level directives. There can also be subtle | ||||
| differences in parser behaviour, such as with | ||||
| [hledger comments](manual.html#comments) vs [Ledger comments](http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Commenting-on-your-Journal), | ||||
| or [balance assertions](manual.html#assertions-and-ordering). | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Output customization: | ||||
| -n, --collapse         Only show totals in the top-most accounts. | ||||
| -P, --by-payee         show summarized totals by payee | ||||
| -x, --comm-as-payee    set commodity name as the payee, for reporting | ||||
| --dow              show a days-of-the-week report | ||||
| -S, --sort EXPR        sort report according to the value expression EXPR | ||||
| --head COUNT       show only the first COUNT entries (negative inverts) | ||||
| --tail COUNT       show only the last COUNT entries (negative inverts) | ||||
| --pager PAGER      send all output through the given PAGER program | ||||
| -A, --average          report average transaction amount | ||||
| -D, --deviation        report deviation from the average | ||||
| -%, --percentage       report balance totals as a percentile of the parent | ||||
| --totals           in the "xml" report, include running total | ||||
| -j, --amount-data      print only raw amount data (useful for scripting) | ||||
| -J, --total-data       print only raw total data | ||||
| -y, --date-format STR  use STR as the date format (default: %Y/%m/%d) | ||||
| --balance-format      --register-format       --print-format | ||||
| --plot-amount-format  --plot-total-format     --equity-format | ||||
| --prices-format       --wide-register-format | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Commodity reporting: | ||||
| --price-db FILE    sets the price database to FILE (def: ~/.pricedb) | ||||
| -L, --price-exp MINS   download quotes only if newer than MINS (def: 1440) | ||||
| -Q, --download         download price information when needed | ||||
| -O, --quantity         report commodity totals (this is the default) | ||||
| -V, --market           report last known market value | ||||
| -g, --performance      report gain/loss for each displayed transaction | ||||
| -G, --gain             report net gain/loss | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Commands: | ||||
| xml      [REGEXP]...   print matching entries in XML format | ||||
| equity   [REGEXP]...   output equity entries for matching accounts | ||||
| prices   [REGEXP]...   display price history for matching commodities | ||||
| entry DATE PAYEE AMT   output a derived entry, based on the arguments | ||||
| ``` | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### Other functionality differences ? | ||||
| ### Functional differences | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - hledger recognises description and negative patterns by "desc:" | ||||
|   and "not:" prefixes, unlike Ledger 3's free-form parser | ||||
| @ -175,9 +127,6 @@ entry DATE PAYEE AMT   output a derived entry, based on the arguments | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - hledger splits multi-day timelog sessions at midnight by default (Ledger does this with an option) | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - hledger doesn't track the value of commodities with varying | ||||
|   price; prices are fixed as of the transaction date | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - hledger's output follows the decimal point character, digit grouping, | ||||
|   and digit group separator character used in the journal. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| @ -199,31 +148,23 @@ entry DATE PAYEE AMT   output a derived entry, based on the arguments | ||||
|   taking it from the clock-out entry | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - hledger's [include directive](manual.html#including-other-files) does not support | ||||
|   shell glob patterns (eg `include *.journal` ), which Ledger does. | ||||
|   shell glob patterns (eg `include *.journal` ), which Ledger's does. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - when checking [balance assertions](manual.html#balance-assertions) | ||||
|   hledger sorts the account's postings first by date and then (for | ||||
|   postings with the same date) by parse order. Ledger goes strictly by | ||||
|   parse order. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| - Ledger allows amounts to have a | ||||
|   [fixed lot price](manual.html#fixed-lot-prices) and a regular price in any | ||||
|   order (and uses whichever appears first). hledger requires the fixed | ||||
|   lot price to come last (and ignores it). | ||||
| - Ledger allows amounts to have a fixed lot price (the {} syntax ?) | ||||
|   and a regular price in any order (and uses whichever appears | ||||
|   first). hledger requires the fixed lot price to come last (and | ||||
|   ignores it). | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### Implementation differences ? | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| Ledger is written in C++, whereas hledger is written in [Haskell](http://haskell.org). | ||||
| Haskell is a highly regarded up-and-coming programming language that enables | ||||
| a coding style known as pure functional programming, offering the | ||||
| promise of more bug-free and maintainable software built in fewer | ||||
| lines of code. Haskell also provides a more abstracted, portable | ||||
| platform which can make deployment and installation easier in some | ||||
| cases. | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ## UI surprises | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| ### Why does it complain about missing amounts ? I put one there | ||||
| ### Why does it complain about missing amounts even though I wrote one ? | ||||
| 
 | ||||
| This is an easy mistake at first. This journal entry: | ||||
| ```journal | ||||
|  | ||||
		Loading…
	
		Reference in New Issue
	
	Block a user